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Vulcan pushes back Rollin Street close date; scrambling
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I have a funny feeling they are going apartments, too.
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Comment by
rollinst.
February 12, 2009
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There goes another one...
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In the words of Rainman:
Apaaaartments. Def... def... definitely apaaaartments. |
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dkonopacki
February 12, 2009
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Interesting...
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Thinking beyond just the Rollin St issue, wouldn't these new Fannie/Freddie rules pretty much make it impossible for any new condos to be built, unless they were built with the apartment fallback in mind? What developer would build pure-condos knowing he needs to pre-sell at least 70% or likely lose most of their investment when forced to go apartment?
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Tim S
February 12, 2009
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RE: Interesting...
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Great post on this restriction and others by real estate agent Ben K. here: http://seattlecondosandlofts.com/2009/02/fannie-mae-revises-
It seems like this rule will put a real damper on higher-end condo buildings--ones with price levels above FHA limits. This may not be a bad thing from an affordability standpoint going forward. Another interesting rule is the "No more than 20% of a project can consist of non-residential space" stipulation. This probably has the largest impact on the condo/hotel projects that were popular among developers before the bust. |
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Comment by
rick.s
February 12, 2009
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apartments!
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At this point, I don't see a way Rollin *won't* be apartments this summer. The contracts state they must close by July. There's no way they're going to sell 70% by then.
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Rollin buyer
February 12, 2009
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Thanks for the info
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I'm glad to have found this post about Rollin Street - it is nice to have this extra information, so thank you!
I also just received one of these form letters from Luke B., and I got to say, it really doesn't seem to me like this is the kind of message you'd send to someone who you think you're going to be doing business with in the near future. This is a lot of uncertainty to be springing up at the last minute. (And it is ironic too, considering how much Vulcan has been squealing about Veer owners who no longer qualify for financing). |
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Rollin Jr.
February 13, 2009
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Rollin on facebook
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Hey guys/gals, if any of you purchased presale at Rollin (Rollin Jr.) you should join the Facebook group: "Rollin Street Buyers". It's only for owners (which may never happen now) and it's a place to discuss sensitive issues concerning what we are going through...etc...
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Comment by
rollinst.
February 13, 2009
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My humble advice
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Here's my humble advice to Vulcan on Rollin Street.
1) Don't drag this closing limbo out through July. Your pre-buyers have been waiting with you for 2 years, and you owe them a quick resolution in 2-3 weeks. The uncertainty likely generated by any further delay is bound to drive up anxiety and critical responses. 2) Give Rollin pre-buyers the chance to get into Enso and Veer at a reduced price (say 10-15%?), or offer them a concession (free upgrades?). This offer will be seen as a fair gesture towards your most loyal fans and you may be surprised that a number of Rollin buyers will jump at this. This would also give Vulcan the opportunity to increase Enso's occupancy. 3) Give Rollin pre-buyers the opportunity to leave now with all of their upgrade and earnest money. I know there are buyers who would like this option as well because they specifically wanted a unit in Rollin St. For these buyers, a clean break will let everyone move on. |
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Rollin Jr.
February 14, 2009
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Rollin
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I like your humble advice.
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rollinst.
February 15, 2009
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What's the pre-sold rate?
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Does anyone know the current sold rate at Rollins? Just how far from 70% are they?
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Comment by
DeborahP
February 18, 2009
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RE: What's the pre-sold rate?
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The percentage is around 25% I believe.
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Comment by
rick.s
February 19, 2009
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Actual financeable pre-sales vs. pre-sales
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25% if you count all the pre-sales contracts, once you start diving in a little deeper and seeing who will have the financing to close - I'd say you're looking at 15-20%.
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Rollin Jr.
February 19, 2009
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apartments vs.lower prices
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Would it be better for Vulcan to convert Rollin St to apartments, or to lower the prices to increase sales? I would think that they would at least try the latter. Personally, I wouldn't even consider buying at the current prices, but with a 10-20% lower price, I might.
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Comment by
slufan
February 20, 2009
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re: apartments vs. lower prices
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Even if prices are reduced 10-20% I still think there aren't the buyers out there in this economy - and the question isn't whether you might try try and buy at a lower price - it's whether you can actually get financing even at those lower prices.
Plus, keep in mind Vulcan has a lot of Rollin St. pre-sale buyers who have been waiting two years for this thing to close and they are not willing to be strung out much longer. |
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Rollin Jr.
February 21, 2009
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2-3 weeks...
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It's now been 3 weeks to the day since Vulcan said they'd let us know. Still no word. =(
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DeborahP
March 03, 2009
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Rollin
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We heard from Vulcan today through an email. Another delay. Now it's the end of March. I see this going on for a long time.
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rollinst.
March 05, 2009
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Another Rollin delay
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True words rollinst, this is going to go on for a long time.
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Rollin Jr.
March 05, 2009
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Next steps for Rollin owners?
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Oh yeah, one other thing, I did see this interesting comment over at Urbnlivn. http://www.urbnlivn.com/2009/02/01/earnest-money/#comment-66938
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Rollin Jr.
March 05, 2009
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Marselle Condo
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I'm a early Marselle Condo buyer....Do you folks think before they complete the project or that they will go apartment as well?
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Comment by
Kevin
May 13, 2009
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Mar Sailed
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Hey Kevin the marselle looks to be complete. I have also not seen a single add or any pr on the project. If you ask me I think that they are still trying to decide to rent or sale the units. But as for them being move in able in the next 21 days (no way) Good luck
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Comment by
Mike
May 30, 2009
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Rollin St
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What's going on with this now?
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Comment by
Robert
August 22, 2009
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Word on the St
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I guess they are awesome places?!
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Robert
August 22, 2009
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